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Oh, I've had a side hustle for two years now. It's a clothing brand. I basically market to people who are underpaid.

It's actually the name of the brand. And even before, thank you, even before all this.

Because by the way, I apologize for interrupting you. Why that's such a brilliant brand name. Everybody thinks you're underpaid.

Yeah, exactly. And that's why it came off with it. But lately I've been thinking about like, did I pick the right niche?

Like sales have just not been good and I've been solely losing passion for it. Like, are you losing?

So listen, let's talk about passion real quick. Do you have a sense if your passion is money, comma, that's a, be the process of making money.

Is it a money, actual money? Is it being the process of making money or is it see having a fashion brand and being creative?

Which one is your passion? And by the way, Jenna, this is an important moment. Like all three are acceptable. There's nothing wrong with any of them. I'm just curious because it's going to help me help you.

It's definitely see like I want to. Well, then then then then then you're losing passion because you're not getting results.

Like you're in the best spot because good news like you picked C. So if it's doing shitty right now, you know, and it's a side hustle. So it's not like, you know, obviously you'd love it to be your permanent job.

This now gets into we need to think about the tactics of you building a brand and doing sales, not about the whole damn thing. So that's a good start.

Yeah, I did, but I'm also multi passionate. Like I have a lot of things that I want to do. And sometimes it's hard to pick like what I want to do.

And you can you can do the fast you can do underpaid 85% of time and 15% of the time do all the other random shit because you're creative and you're that kind of character.

And I find that doing the 15% of other shit, empathy, painter sports, Gary V. Baseball cards actually makes me go 110% on the 85% in running Vayner Media because I'm also creative.

Yes, you know, that's the thing like I'm so aware enough to know that like I don't want to that like whatever that side hustle is like I want to go all in on that thing.

And lately I've been thinking about like do I want to like I've been drawing my whole life. So I've been considering like doing something with that.

But let's stop for a second. Like more of like the artist through. Let's stop for a second. The answer is yes. Draw something posted on Instagram. Film yourself drawing it. Post on TikTok.

Like people have the world confused. The answer is yes to everything.

Like yes. Go that route. Like everybody thinks it's like a thing. Oh, I'm going to make the pivot now from fashion brand and designer to draw.

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