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Why Israel's attacks might not stop Iran's nuclear program

Here & Now Anytime

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🗓️ 16 June 2025

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

As Iran and Israel continue to lob airstrikes at each other, civilian casualties are climbing in both countries. Negar Mortazavi from the Center for International Policy shares how Iran sees the escalating conflict. And, authorities in Minnesota have arrested a suspect in the killing of State Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark, and the shootings of State Sen. John Hoffman and his wife Yvette. Minnesota Public Radio's Matt Sepic joins us. Then, Meta is pursuing artificial "superintelligence." It bought a 49% stake in Scale AI for $14.3 billion. Ina Fried, chief technology correspondent for Axios, explains more about Meta's race to create a more powerful AI.

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0:00.0

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0:21.6

The big power here is the United States.

0:24.2

The U.S. is the only party who has the possibility to stop this.

0:29.5

Israel's attack on Iran, and Iran's retaliation, has killed civilians, blown up energy infrastructure,

0:36.1

and put the region on alert for an all-out war.

0:41.4

It's Monday, June 12th, and this is here and now anytime from NPR and WBUR.

0:46.7

I'm Chris Bentley.

0:50.2

Today on the show, officials arrest a man suspected of posing as a police officer and shooting two Minnesota lawmakers and their spouses.

0:59.5

Also, META is shoveling money at a new research lab in pursuit of a goal it's calling superintelligence.

1:07.8

The Skynet jokes write themselves.

1:09.9

But what's really the state of the AI arms race?

1:13.8

Before we get to that, though, there are traffic jams and long lines at gas stations in Tehran

1:19.6

as Iranians flee their capital, which is under bombardment by Israel for a fourth day.

1:25.5

The attacks so far have killed more than 200 people, including Iranian military leaders,

1:30.8

as well as civilians, and damaged energy infrastructure.

1:34.7

Iran has hit back at Israel, targeting an oil refinery and destroying some buildings in Tel Aviv.

1:40.7

Israel said 24 people have been killed.

1:43.7

For more on the situation, we called up Nagar Mortizavi, senior fellow at the Center for Inter-Divate. Israel said 24 people have been killed.

1:48.1

For more on the situation, we called up Nagar Mortizavi, senior fellow at the Center for International Policy.

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