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🗓️ 9 May 2024
⏱️ 29 minutes
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David Aaronovitch and guests explore the troubled state of the water industry in the UK. How do companies solve the sewage problem, fix the leaks and reduce the debt mountain?
Guests:
Kate Bayliss, research associate in the Department of Economics at SOAS, University of London David Hall, visiting professor in the Public Services International Research Unit at the University of Greenwich Sir Dieter Helm, Professor of Energy at the University of Oxford Julie Bygraves, public policy analyst and expert on utility finance
Production team: Sally Abrahams, Kirsteen Knight and Ben Carter Editor: Richard Vadon Production Co-ordinator: Gemma Ashman Sound engineers: Neil Churchill and Graham Puddifoot
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0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, radio, podcasts. |
0:08.2 | Another week, another collection of revolting videos of sewage being pumped out into one of our rivers, this time the Thames. |
0:17.1 | Another week and another set of stories in the business pages about the financial troubles of the UK's biggest water company. |
0:24.3 | Thames again as it happens. |
0:26.5 | What's gone wrong with Thames water? |
0:29.4 | How does it reflect on what's happening to the whole of our water industry? |
0:33.2 | What can we do about it and who would have to pay? |
0:37.0 | Step inside the briefing room and together we'll find out. |
0:43.8 | To begin with, I want to take a closer look at the crisis hit Thames Water |
0:48.0 | and find out whether the problems they're experiencing are shared by other companies. |
0:53.4 | Joining me in the briefing room, a Kate Bayliss, |
0:55.7 | research associate in the Department of Economics at SOAS University of London, |
1:00.2 | and David Hall, visiting professor in the Public Services International Research Unit |
1:04.6 | at the University of Greenwich. |
1:06.7 | David Hall, how many water companies are there in the UK? |
1:10.0 | In the UK altogether, there's about 17. There's two public companies. One is in Northern Ireland, where it's run by public sector. |
1:17.4 | One is in Scottish water, where it's run by the public sector. Then there's Welsh water and a much smaller one in Wales. |
1:23.9 | And then there's nine water and sewage companies in England and four small water-only companies. |
1:30.8 | Are these divided by geographical area? |
1:32.8 | The big ones that we're all mainly concerned with, they're based on river basins, so big areas, |
1:39.2 | and they were designed like that. It was very enlightened at the time in the 1970s, to revive for integrated river basin management. |
1:46.8 | So the water resources and the sewage pollution was managed together to get a good result. |
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