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🗓️ 18 August 2025
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0:15.3 | Hi, this is Lillian in Portland, Oregon, where I just finished biking 207 miles from Seattle to Portland with my dad |
0:21.8 | on a tandem in my first ever STP. This podcast is recorded at 1.32 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time on |
0:29.6 | Monday the 18th of August. Things might have changed by the time you listen to this, but hopefully |
0:34.7 | my legs will have recovered. Enjoy the show. |
0:46.4 | Congratulations. That sounds like just a gorgeous bike ride. Hey there. It's the NPR Politics Podcast. I'm Tamara Keith. I cover the White House. I'm Tom Bowman. I cover the Pentagon. |
0:50.7 | And NPR's Brian Mann is with us. Hi, Brian. Hi, guys. Thanks for having me. |
0:54.6 | Glad to have you here. Today on the show, how the Trump administration is using the military |
1:00.0 | in Washington, D.C. and how it could lead to more use of the military throughout the country. |
1:06.3 | Brian, let's start with you. You've been out and about in Washington the last several days. |
1:11.2 | How would you describe the military presence in the city? |
1:14.6 | Yeah, mostly what I've been seeing, Tam, is National Guard units in sort of the tourist areas in kind of the high-end retail districts of the city, also on the mall near the big tourist destinations. |
1:27.4 | Occasionally, I've seen Humvees moving through the city in other areas. |
1:32.4 | And on top of that, of course, there's this big deployment of federal agents, |
1:37.0 | many of them masks from the FBI, from Homeland Security, |
1:40.4 | from the Drug Enforcement Administration, on top of metropolitan police. So it's the presence of |
1:46.2 | police throughout this city. On top of the National Guard, it's pervasive. Explain the justification |
1:52.0 | here. President Trump has said that this is an emergency or has used emergency powers to bring in |
1:59.2 | the National Guard. Is that supported by data? |
2:04.2 | Local officials have not requested this. |
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