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Why Is Solving The Plastic Problem So Hard?

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Life Sciences, Wnyc, Science, Friday, Natural Sciences

4.46.3K Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2024

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

Plastics are everywhere, in packaging, clothing, and even our bodies. Could they be made less integral to manufacturing and more recyclable?

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0:00.0

Plastic is everywhere, and a big reason why it's super inexpensive.

0:08.6

Often the cheapest option is plastic, but is it really when you look at the enormous health and environmental impacts?

0:17.1

I argue that it's not.

0:19.1

It's Wednesday, April 24th, and it also happens to be Science Friday.

0:24.6

I'm SciFRI producer Kathleen Davis.

0:27.6

One of the biggest environmental issues that we face today is plastic, which isn't just about everything.

0:34.6

It's in our packaging, electronics, and even our clothes.

0:38.8

The use of plastics has skyrocketed over the past 50 years, so the current state of our

0:44.2

plastic world can seem a little bit grim. But there are good things happening to address

0:50.0

our plastics crisis. Here's guest host Maggie Kerth. Judith Ank is a former EPA

0:55.9

regional administrator and president of Beyond Plastics based in Beddington, Vermont. Judith,

1:01.8

welcome to Science Friday. Maggie, it's so good to be with you and I just want to start off by saying,

1:08.0

yes, it's a daunting problem, but plastic pollution is completely solvable.

1:14.1

That is extremely relieving to hear. I mean, you know, I've been trying to use less plastics,

1:22.0

but there are some things like dish detergent, for example, that it's just now difficult to

1:26.6

find packaged in any other way.

1:28.7

So let's start off with some of the basics. What even is plastic and how did we end up using so much of it?

1:35.3

Plastic historically was made from chemicals in oil. It's now made from chemicals in ethene, a byproduct of hydrofracking.

1:47.4

So the reason why we are all seeing so much more plastic in our lives, nothing we voted for, by the way, is because of the glut of

1:54.0

hydrofract gas. And engineers have found a way to capture some of the waste from hydrofracking and use it to make new plastics.

2:05.7

Also, plastics are cheap for the fossil fuel industry. It's not cheap for our health or our planet,

2:13.1

but if you are a company that packages a lot of consumer products, typically the only question

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