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Welcome to the commentary magazine daily podcast today's Thursday June 17th 2021.

I'm John Puthwords, the editor of commentary. I want to engage in a brief

discussion with my colleague executive editor, A Greenwald Hyab.

Hi John, how are you? I'm good about our July August issue, which I believe we

should have at least part of up online today. And then if we don't have it all up

today, the rest will be up tomorrow. Double issue, our one double issue of the

year, longer than than others, got so much good stuff in it. Indeed we do. We have

Leah Liebvitt's first appearance in commentary talking about making the case

about why Jews are not white. We are our own thing.

Right, and it's a it's a it's a really fascinating and original

piece. Not by the way, there's anything wrong with being white, which is

part of the point. Right. It doesn't matter what anybody is, but

describing Jewish identity and saying Jewish identity is analogous to almost

any other identity on earth is itself an exposition or

exposes, let's say, the factitiousness of this whole idea about white,

white adjacency and white privilege in a really startling and original way. So

that's a great piece by Liel. No Jews are not white is the name of it.

Christine Rosen, senior writer, high Christine has two pieces.

Has two pieces in the issue. I do. Your big piece is something that will be

familiar to to listeners of the podcast and all out of salt on the

teachers unions and their behavior during the pandemic year.

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