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Hello, dear listener and welcome back to my podcast, owning it the Anxiety Podcast. I'm

Caroline Foran. If you're new here, you're very welcome. I created this podcast on the back

of my number one bestselling book of the same name, which was all about how I learned to manage anxiety.

That was, I think, almost five years ago now. So I have learned an awful lot since, and all of those

learnings since go into this podcast series, along with lots of world-renowned expert input and lots

of familiar voices who, which I think is really important to share their

experience of anxiety with me. I think it's really important to hear from experts who can help

us better understand, you know, what we're dealing with, why we're dealing with certain

things to do with anxiety. But it's equally, if not more beneficial to normalise our experience

of anxiety and hear from other people who we think

are just like us or that we can relate to and say, oh, they're feeling it too, it's not just me.

And how that's so powerful when you feel like you're less alone.

Sometimes I do solo episodes when I want to explore something that's more personal that doesn't

maybe really require a guest or to be

completely frank when I don't have a guest lined up and I panic and I try to pull something out of

my earth. This week I had planned this one. It's not a panicked one but I wanted to talk about

therapy. So last week I was joined by Dr. Claire Kamamettu who is a regular expert guest on the show.

If you've been listening before, you'll definitely be familiar with her.

She's a clinical psychologist, and she's brilliant at articulating what might at first seem quite overwhelming.

We talked about, well, we've talked with so many different things over different episodes,

but our most recent episode, the last one on the list before the one you you're listening to now is where we explore the different types of therapists that you

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