Why have Labour changed their position on trans rights?
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🗓️ 25 July 2023
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
Labour have promised to simplify and reform the Gender Recognition Act that helps trans people officially change their gender identity.
Self ID will NOT be Labour policy - you will still need a medical assessment to transition. And they are drawing clear lines between sex and gender.
Will this help politicians answer the toxic question of whether a woman can have a penis? And what does it tell us about Labour's direction of electoral travel? Who are they trying to please?
Later we look at the protests in Israel and what the new 'reasonableness vote' means for Israel's claim on democracy.
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| 0:00.0 | The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity. |
| 0:08.2 | This is a global player original podcast. |
| 0:11.7 | A woman can have a penis. |
| 0:14.1 | Nick, I'm not, I don't think we can conduct this debate with, you know... |
| 0:22.7 | Sorry, I've offended you in some way. |
| 0:24.1 | No, no, no, no, it's just... |
| 0:25.7 | No, no, no, I just... |
| 0:27.3 | A woman can't have a penis. |
| 0:28.5 | I don't think that discussing this issue in this way helps anyone in the long run. |
| 0:34.8 | That was Kirstama, with Nick Ferrari last year on LBC, |
| 0:39.0 | painfully trying to tread a path through the question |
| 0:41.7 | that no progressive politician has wanted to answer for the last few years. |
| 0:46.1 | Can a woman have a penis? |
| 0:48.4 | Well, today, Labour seems cautiously to have tried to set out their answer to that. Their shadow woman |
| 0:56.3 | equality spokesperson, Anne Lee's Dodds, has written in an article that they are looking to find |
| 1:03.0 | a consensus position for two marginalised groups. So today, just to warn you, we're not going to be |
| 1:10.7 | debating trans rights or trans |
| 1:13.0 | issues or even the answer to that question. We're looking at Labor's approach to that issue |
| 1:19.7 | that has dogged them, that has made microphone life so uncomfortable for so many members of the |
| 1:26.3 | party. And we're looking at what this means in the |
| 1:29.1 | wider context of Labour positioning itself for a general election, whether it's a backtrack on |
| 1:35.2 | some of the scarier voter issues like Eul-Lairs or like big spending plans, whether it's Labor |
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