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The Good Fight

Why Governments Fail

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.7963 Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2021

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

The pandemic was supposed to prove the value of public health institutions like the CDC; instead, it exposed their inability to deal with a serious pandemic without serious errors. Tyler Cowen, a professor of economics at George Mason University, worries that these failures have a deeper cause: as the citizens of countries like the United States come to trust each other less and less, they are increasingly incapable of meeting the big challenges that await them. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Tyler Cowen talk about populism, the failure of state institutions during the pandemic, and the value of economic growth. A written transcript of this conversation is available on persuasion.community Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: goodfightpod@gmail.com Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John T. Williams and Rebecca Rashid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The Economist provides independent journalism for independent thinking and has been

0:05.1

championing progress for almost 200 years.

0:08.3

With the Economist, you gain access to fact-based, deeply researched expert analysis of world events and topics

0:14.3

ranging from business and culture to politics, science and technology.

0:18.2

Tune into the global conversation with reporting from correspondence around the world,

0:23.0

available in-app online through podcasts and print.

0:26.5

So for fact sake, search the economist. And the And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

0:54.8

My name is Rob Henderson. I'm a PhD student in psychology at Cambridge University and a graduate of Yale University, but before I entered higher education, my life was a lot different.

1:12.1

I recently wrote an essay that appeared in persuasion titled

1:16.5

Don't End Aptitude Tests. In that piece, I wanted to question a popular opinion that standardized testing has a detrimental effect on the

1:26.8

prospects of poor and disadvantaged students.

1:29.7

I'm sort of a beneficiary of standardized tests despite my unusual upbringing.

1:35.0

In that piece I highlighted that it has become somewhat fashionable to believe

1:40.0

that these kind of standardized tests are harmful to kids who grew up like I did. My mother was a drug

1:46.4

addict and my father had abandoned us and I spent my early childhood living in foster homes in Los Angeles and was generally a terrible student and I just had a very negative attitude about rules and about teachers in high school.

2:02.0

I graduated near the bottom of my high school class with a 2.2 GPA.

2:07.0

So I decided to join the military, which requires potential recruits to take the armed services vocational aptitude battery or what's called the

2:17.2

ASVAB, which is a standardized test somewhat similar to the SAT. After I took this test, my military recruiter showed me how to convert my results into an SAT score.

2:29.0

I was surprised to discover that my score was the same as my friend who had always

2:34.9

gotten straight A's and who was heading for college. So the results of that test

2:41.0

was the first inkling that maybe I had the potential to be a good student and I in the future could have maybe sought a path to college.

2:50.7

My academic prospects were not as dire as I thought. So for example, in May of 2020,

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