How long have you been in digital marketing?

I've been making content like this for 14, 15 years.

I started a business two years ago doing this.

Okay, so two years you've been coaching.

And you didn't bring on anyone with past like education experience? Yeah, you know, we have two guys. on different guy and he just ripped the three of us off. Okay.

And we, so we kind of started from this commonplace

and it was weird because we had these great ideas

and the guy who we were working for just kept stepping on,

it's really funny.

He was stealing our clients to do one-on-ones for himself. So he's stealing from the business and then he was stealing our commissions. It was crazy what was going on. As soon as we cut ties with him, we were like three rabid dogs and we tore

every, like we were so happy to be free and just working. And the other thing that happened is we were

close to like three other companies and we watch their screw-ups and we just we built a company on the idea that no one ever gets paid late. Everyone no one ever touches committee like very simple like Lea Akaoco when took over Chrysler, very simple rules that are very basic to make us different from everyone else.

And when we did that, the growth was explosive.

Because all we did was offer value.

And I think that was the part that was really great.

But then we get to a scalable point where we need help from like Cole Gordon

and people like that to help us get to that next point.

Yeah, Cole's texting me this morning actually about some

different things but you know what I've realized is it's funny because I'm

very new I mean I hate to say it this way, but I'm actually still pretty new to business even though it feels like I've been doing in a while.

You know, I was just playing baseball my whole life. Like I had no desire to do any of this.

You know, I retired in 2017 and I didn't officially go full time

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