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| 0:00.0 | Happy holidays from The Indicator. For the next week, we're running some of our favorite shows from this year. |
| 0:05.4 | Today's episode details why celebrities are increasingly investing in their own brands. |
| 0:12.2 | NPR. |
| 0:25.4 | This is The Indicator from Planet Money and Darym Woods. |
| 0:26.7 | And I'm Waylon Wong. |
| 0:31.4 | Lisa Loeb is the singer-songwriter behind the 90s Billboard hit, Stay. |
| 0:34.1 | I have belted this song many times. Is today going I only hear what I want you. |
| 0:40.1 | Is today going to be one of those days, Whelam? |
| 0:42.4 | No, I'm not going to sing on this show. |
| 0:45.5 | Well, I only hear what I want, and so I heard you singing in my head. |
| 0:51.2 | Lisa is known for her signature look, which is cat eye glasses. |
| 0:55.2 | Not the cat eye of my grandmother, which is sort of that grandma, pointy, very pointy, pinched look, but it was a little bit more of kind of a sexy librarian. |
| 1:04.8 | And I just realized it was a really flattering shape, and it was one that I really gravitated towards. |
| 1:09.8 | Lisa said people would often say to her, you should have your own line of eyewear, and she |
| 1:14.4 | initially resisted this idea. |
| 1:16.7 | I think people were seen as dilettance when you were just as interested in the t-shirts |
| 1:21.3 | you were making as the music that you were making. |
| 1:24.8 | But as the music industry changed, so did Lisa's thinking. |
| 1:28.6 | And she launched her first collection of glasses frames in 2010. |
| 1:32.7 | I think now people see somebody's lipstick brand as a creative outlet, |
| 1:37.6 | just like they might see a song. |
| 1:40.5 | These days, celebrity brands are more than creative outlets. |
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