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🗓️ 15 July 2025
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It can now be revealed that a Ministry of Defence data leak has cost the UK some £7 billion and put thousands of Afghans at risk of death. A dataset containing the details of nearly 19,000 people who applied to move to the UK following the Taliban takeover was released in error by a British defence official in February 2022. Ministers were informed of the debacle in August 2023; since then, an unprecedented super-injunction has been in place to stop the press from reporting details. What does this mean for successive governments?
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Natasha Feroze speaks to James Heale and Freddy Gray.
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0:45.4 | Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, The Spectators' Daily Politics Podcast. |
0:49.0 | I'm Natasha Froes, and I'm joined by our regular James Heel and our not-so-regular on Coffee House Shots, Freddie Gray. |
0:52.2 | The regular. |
0:53.4 | The irregular guest. What? |
0:56.0 | Churchill had an irregular core in the World War II. |
0:58.2 | Now, James, an extraordinary story today has been revealed about the Afghan resettlement scheme |
1:03.5 | and a super injunction that has covered up a big story to do with it since 2022. Tell us about it. |
1:10.1 | Yeah, absolutely. So back in February 22, a British official was trying to assess whether people should from Afghanistan be eligible for resettlement in the UK under the Afghan scheme. Unfortunately, as a result of their blundering on a computer, they sent the details of nearly 19,000 people out to the |
1:28.5 | wrong email addresses. |
1:29.7 | 18 months later, this appeared then on Facebook, which were ministers were informed, and |
1:33.5 | details of the people at risk were seeping out. |
1:36.2 | The result of this, the government decided that it would enable all those people who were on |
1:40.2 | the list to get out of the country. |
1:41.7 | And so 24,000 people have now come here. |
1:43.9 | This $7 billion was put aside for the cost of this scheme. And it has been subject to an unprecedented |
1:49.9 | super injunction, which stopped details coming out. Superjunction was extended by John Healy |
1:54.3 | after the election in 2024. And the superjunction has been in place now for almost two years |
1:58.7 | since August 2023. So the upshot is that 24,000 people have come here as a result of government failure, which has costed £7 billion, and nothing's been able to be reported about it until today. So it is a shocking scandal. And just another example of how deep the rot in the British state goes, I don't think it's going to be party political in a sense that, you know, you have the spectacle today of John Healy making his comments in a very grave demeanour, and then being responded to by James Cutledge, who the shadow defence secretary, who had to apologise at the big start by saying, I was also the defence minister at this time, you know, when this happened in the last government. I don't think particularly the Labour government would have made things any different. Very much the sense coming out of Westminster today is that, |
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