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Matter of Opinion

Why Do We Still Change Clocks Twice A Year?

Matter of Opinion

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Ross Douthat, News, New York Times, Journalism

4.27.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 November 2021

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

On Nov. 7, most of us will fall back an hour and restart the decades-old discussion of why we shift time twice a year. A quick reminder: In spring, we “spring forward” to Daylight Time, giving us daylight well into the evening. But this Sunday, we’ll be back to Standard Time. Which is nice for bright mornings. But it means it’s dark before dinner. The clock change is cumbersome and confusing, and only about 70 countries in the world follow it. Even in the United States there’s no cohesion around Daylight Time; Arizona and Hawaii don’t make the switch. And it’s something politicians of all parties can agree on. Senators Marco Rubio and Ed Markey have pushed to make Daylight Time permanent. The Sunshine Protection Act was introduced in 2018, and 19 states have already passed similar legislation to pave the way for year-round daylight savings, should Congress eventually allow it. But some scientists have their reservations, given how Daylight Time affects our body clocks and sleeping patterns. This week, Jane Coaston digs into the debate with Dustin Buehler, a lecturer at the Willamette University College of Law and general counsel for Oregon’s governor, and Dr. Joseph Takahashi, the chair of the neuroscience department at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center and an investigator at the Howard Hughes Medical Institute. Mr. Buehler thinks Daylight Time should be permanent, while Dr. Takahashi says Standard Time is the way to go. Mentioned in this episode: “Daylight savings year-round could save lives, improve sleep and other benefits,” in The Conversation in 2019 “Why We Should Abolish Daylight Saving Time” in Michigan Medicine, March 2021 Listen to “Matters of Time,” an episode of 99% Invisible

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0:00.0

Today on the argument, everyone hates daylight saving time.

0:07.1

Or do they?

0:11.0

As you will likely learn on November 7th when your oven clock is suddenly wrong, or maybe

0:16.1

that's just me, clocks in most of the United States will fall back an hour, plunging

0:20.5

us into darkness for the next four months, until we change them back again.

0:25.5

It's never ending, cycle. Much like time itself.

0:30.5

I'm Jane Kiston. Personally, I find the clock switches pretty annoying. It's disorienting.

0:36.5

And I know it can be a nightmare for my friends who are parents.

0:39.8

But what didn't I know?

0:41.7

Daylight saving is a wildly contentious issue, with some truly high stakes. Also, yes, it's

0:48.7

saving without the S. You learn something new every day. It's getting Senators Marco

0:53.8

Rubio and Ed Markey to actually agree on something. The Sunshine Protection Act, a build

0:58.4

or make daylight saving time permanent. Which, by the way, 19 states already have on

1:03.5

tap.

1:06.3

Today, our guests represent opposite sides of this debate. First off, a neuroscientist

1:11.1

in favor of permanent standard time.

1:13.8

Standard time is determined by the rotation of our Earth. And it also is optimally phased

1:23.7

to correspond to biological clocks.

1:27.7

Dr. Joseph Takahashi says standard time. What we're falling back to is much better for our

1:33.7

health. His professor and chair of the Department of Neuroscience at the University of Texas

1:38.8

Southwestern Medical Center. Dustin Bueller is an adjunct professor at the Wilanette University

1:43.9

College of Law. He also serves as the general counsel for the governor of Oregon. His preference

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