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The Good Fight

Why Do We Always Think We're Right?

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.7 • 963 Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2021

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

What transforms reasonable people into an angry mob? Why are we so eager to dismiss those who disagree with us as inherently evil? These are questions which Jonathan Haidt has spent his career trying to answer. One of the world’s most influential social psychologists and a member of Persuasion's Board of Advisors, he argues that a lot of recent cultural shifts are encouraging emotional fragility rather than resilience. A professor of ethical leadership at NYU's Stern School of Business, Haidt seeks to employ moral psychology to promote dialogue rather than division. In this week’s episode of The Good Fight, Yascha Mounk sits down with Jonathan Haidt to discuss psychological differences between the left and the right, the human tendency to discriminate in favor of the in-group, and how to build a less tribal culture and country. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: goodfightpod@gmail.com Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John T. Williams and Rebecca Rashid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

And the And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

0:25.0

My name is John Wood Jr.

0:30.0

I'm a national ambassador with an organization called Braver Angels, which happens to be the largest

0:35.4

grassroots bipartisan organization in America dedicated to the work of political depolarization,

0:41.4

basically helping us re-establish relationship with each other across political, but also racial and other pertinent divides in American life.

0:49.3

A little while ago, I wrote an essay that appeared in persuasion called Remember Martin Luther King Jr.

0:57.4

And in that work I illustrate the contrast between the philosophy of the Baird Rustin and leaders and members of the nonviolent movements of the 1960s, and the ideology of anti-racism,

1:19.8

as articulated and explained by Ingram X Kindi and others.

1:26.4

In the essay, I try to make the point

1:31.8

that nonviolent seeks to engage. the

1:35.0

whole person in his or her totality on the other side of difficult

1:40.0

of difficult questions of justice, prejudice and politics. of Dr King termed agape love but what you could also term goodwill that the moral strength

1:56.1

of nonviolence lies in the fact that it seeks to win the opponent over and to reintroduce the enemy in a social context to the shared fabric

2:11.0

of community, what Dr. King would have termed the beloved community, a place

2:15.6

where we arrive through reconciliation and challenging one another with truth through a spirit of

2:22.4

goodwill. I draw a contrast in that piece

2:25.1

between nonviolence and anti-racism because while anti-racism and non-violence are in

2:31.8

some respects linked in history, you can look at them both as being a part of the Black Freedom tradition, if you will, the overarching historic struggle for equal rights,

2:43.0

to equal opportunity, and for the advancement

2:45.6

of the African-American community.

2:47.8

While nonviolence and anti-racism

2:50.0

stand in some sense adjacent in that history,

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