Why do Trump supporters believe that a wall will make the United States safe when the data suggests a wall will do nothing of the sort? Eric Caron, former US Special Agent and diplomat debates Thom Hartmann on the effectiveness of a border wall, and Thom's callers from both sides of the issue debate pasionately.
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Thom Hartmann
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🗓️ 20 March 2019
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Thom debates Eric Canon, author of 'Switched On, The Heart and Mind of a Secret Agent' - Thom's diverse callers take on this episode's big question- will a wall on the southern United States border provide security for America?- are southern immigrants really a threat?
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| 0:00.0 | Tom Arbin here with you. |
| 0:05.0 | Let me start out with Eric Curran. |
| 0:10.0 | He's a former U.S. Special Agent and Diplomat, the author of a new book Switched on, the heart |
| 0:15.1 | in mind of a Special Agent, his website switched on life.com. |
| 0:19.3 | Eric, welcome to the program. |
| 0:20.8 | Hey Tom, it's a privilege to be on your show. |
| 0:22.9 | Thank you for having me. |
| 0:23.9 | Thank you. |
| 0:24.9 | So I have a quote from you that it's astonishing that after 9-11, the Democrat Party, I'm not |
| 0:30.6 | sure what you're talking about there. |
| 0:31.6 | There's no such thing as a Democrat party. |
| 0:34.0 | Is failing to see the gravity of an open border. They won't recognize the importance of border security |
| 0:38.7 | even as MS-13 members pour into America. Just saw a 16-year-old boy being killed by MS-13 members. |
| 0:45.8 | You realize MS-13 is a Los Angeles street gang? |
| 0:50.1 | Yes, sir. |
| 0:51.1 | Okay. |
| 0:52.1 | So what I don't get here |
| 0:53.6 | well they lay out your case |
| 0:55.8 | well my case is simple |
| 0:57.6 | that this president recognizes the threat |
| 1:00.6 | he sees the threat matrix from prnational crime groups i.e. |
| 1:05.0 | MS-13, the cartels operating in Mexico. |
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