Hey, everybody. It's me, Sam Stein. Managing Enter at the Book. I'm joined by John Avlon.

My man. What's going on, John? How you doing? All right. All things considered as the Republic

continues to be chipped away at pretty freaking aggressive. Literally and figuratively, yeah, I was going to say,

I know you're a big fan of what they're doing with the East Wing and that you're a huge ballroom

guys. So these are good times for you, John.

Honest to God, I think the corruption and just the, you know, literally a wrecking ball to the White

House, I think that's going to resonate in ways maybe others. Which one resonates more?

That one or the decision to reward himself $230 million in Justice Department settlement cash because they investigated him.

I feel like that.

I'm always going to go with the picture.

You're your visual guy.

You know, sex scandals resonate more than financial scandals.

You know, the visuals of a wrecking ball during a government shutdown.

But look, I mean, it's on the news.

Again, what's the mechanism for that?

Like, who approves that?

Does the Justice Department approve it because he's the president? Like, what the actual fucker we do? He didn't get approval for the construction of a ball or he just went with it? This is what he does. And it's dangerous. It is for sure. We're going to talk a different flavor of people right now.

So I kind of, as a segue from this, we've been talking a lot about the East Wing and the ballroom and stuff in the office slack here.

And one of the things that's kind of always popped into my head is like, why do we care so much about this story when there's so much other shit hitting the fan?

And one of the things that's really been very pronounced these

past two weeks, which you've covered in various incarnations of your career, is just this sort

of strand of neo-Nazism that we have seen in Republican circles, specifically two things,

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