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Why covering the Vatican is a really tough reporting assignment

Consider This from NPR

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🗓️ 10 May 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

When NPR listeners think of reports from Italy or the Vatican, usually one name comes to mind: Sylvia Poggioli. She covered much more, of course, over the years - reporting across Europe and on the war in the Balkans.

But as Poggioli tells host Scott Detrow, for this week's Reporter's Notebook series, it was the Vatican, that in some ways, was her most challenging assignment.

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0:00.0

There was a moment during our live special coverage of Pope Leo's election that I will never forget.

0:05.0

Leo, who up until that day was known as Cardinal Robert Prevost, was addressing St. Peter Square in Italian.

0:11.5

It had been an open question of whether we would have a live translation. We didn't.

0:19.3

So NPR's longtime Rome correspondent, Sylvia Pajoli,

0:22.7

leapt into action. Peace be with all of you. Sylvia Pajoli was a key part of NPR's coverage

0:28.6

of the election of the first American pope. She's been a key part of NPR's Vatican coverage

0:33.1

since the days of Pope John Paul II. A few days before the conclave began,

0:38.4

I took a stroll through St. Peter Square

0:40.1

with someone that listeners have long viewed

0:42.0

as one of the most iconic voices in NPR history.

0:45.5

We're about to go into the center of the square

0:47.5

to try to have a little art history lesson.

0:50.5

Joly spent decades as NPR's Rome correspondent.

0:53.3

In addition to having one of listeners' most

0:55.0

beloved and recognizable outroes, Sylvia Paul Jolie, NPR News, Rome.

1:00.4

Pajoli helped establish the sound and standard for our news network.

1:06.5

This week's reporter's notebook begins with an art history and architecture lesson.

1:11.0

And we're standing here in the square, and this is the central visual of the Vatican.

1:17.5

But it also, the setting has played a role in so many big ceremonial events that get international attention, papal funerals, installation masses.

1:25.5

And it seems like the setting is as much of the story as what

1:29.0

the Cardinals and the popes are saying in the setting. Oh, absolutely. I'm not so sure if it would

1:34.0

look half as exciting, half as dramatic without this incredible square, the basilica, which was

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