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Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer

Why can’t we talk about homelessness? (with Josephine Ensign)

Pitchfork Economics with Nick Hanauer

Civic Ventures

Business, Government, News, Politics

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 23 November 2021

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

The number of unhoused Americans is at a historically high rate right now. This podcast is produced in Seattle, a city with the third highest homeless population in the U.S. Though many Seattleites identify as progressive, we can’t reach a consensus on how to help our most vulnerable populations—or even find agreement on the root causes of the housing crisis. Why are perspectives on homelessness, and possible solutions to it, so polarized? Josephine Ensign, a University of Washington nurse and health care provider for people experiencing homelessness, shares some of her insights from her career on the frontlines of this crisis. Josephine Ensign is a professor in the School of Nursing and an adjunct professor in the Department of Gender, Women & Sexuality Studies at the University of Washington. Her most recent book is Skid Road: On the Frontier of Health and Homelessness in an American City. Twitter: @josephineensign Skid Road: https://bookshop.org/books/skid-road-on-the-frontier-of-health-and-homelessness-in-an-american-city/9781421440132 Homelessness Rises Faster Where Rent Exceeds a Third of Income: https://www.zillow.com/research/homelessness-rent-affordability-22247/ WA Department of Commerce: http://www.commerce.wa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/hau-why-homelessness-increase-2017.pdf Website: http://pitchforkeconomics.com/ Twitter: @PitchforkEcon Instagram: @pitchforkeconomics Nick’s twitter: @NickHanauer

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0:00.0

This is a podcast about economics, not about homelessness, but I feel really

0:06.5

strongly that these two things are inextricably intertwined.

0:10.7

It's not just a housing problem, it is also the sense of belonging, the sense of

0:16.6

community. We need a much more robust system in order to deal with very real

0:22.6

trauma that both gets people into homelessness and that comes from being

0:27.2

homeless.

0:32.4

From the home offices of civic ventures in downtown Seattle, this is pitch-fork

0:36.7

economics with Nick Hanauer, the best place to get the truth about who gets

0:41.2

what and why.

0:48.2

I'm Nick Hanauer, founder of Civic Ventures. I'm David Goldstein, senior fellow at

0:54.9

Civic Ventures.

0:59.9

You know, one of the things about living out here in Seattle here in Washington

1:04.0

state is that we get to be proud about having a very progressive city, a very

1:12.0

progressive state, a very affluent and forward-looking region, but there are two

1:19.2

things here that we're kind of ashamed of. One is we have by far the most

1:26.6

regressive tax code in the country and the other is we have one of the highest

1:33.2

rates of homelessness in the country and you know I don't think that they are

1:40.4

are unconnected.

1:42.4

This is a podcast about economics, not about homelessness, but I feel really

1:49.1

strongly that these two things are inextricably intertwined and I'm drawn to

1:55.7

believe that our homelessness problem is a consequence of the social and

2:01.4

economic arrangements we have chosen both in our city and our country and to be

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