Caitlin Long, founder and CEO of Custodia Bank, and Meltem Demirors, chief strategy officer of CoinShares, share their concerns about crypto in the U.S. following a wild week in the banking sector. With Signature Bank’s takeover looking like a targeted takedown and crypto-friendly upstarts like Custodia being shadowbanned by the Fed, the two longtime experts look ahead at the fights to come. Is USDC next to land in regulators’ crosshairs? Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Stitcher, Castbox, Google Podcasts, TuneIn, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Show highlights: how crypto is viewed as a “big, scary, and strange” industry how Signature and Silvergate became so important for the crypto industry with SEN and Signet why Caitlin says it’s “crystal clear” that we are now in Operation Choke Point 2.0, with U.S. regulators pushing to debank the crypto industry why Caitlin says the Fed’s vote against Custodia’s application was preordained whether Sen. Elizabeth Warren had an impact on the current crisis how everything comes down to game theory whether VCs are responsible for causing the bank run whether the rollback in 2018 of certain provisions of the Dodd-Frank Act played a role in the recent collapse Caitlin’s hot takes on what happened with Signature Bank the unique characteristics of Custodia’s business model as a bank how stablecoins challenge the current financial system why it’s so important for crypto to improve its public perception Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Halborn Guests: Meltem Demirors, Chief Strategy Officer at CoinShares Caitlin Long, founder and CEO of Custodia Bank Links Previous coverage of Unchained: Jim Bianco on Why the Banking System Has Always Been Broken The Fed Is In Checkmate: What Will Powell Do? The Fall of SVB: What Happened and How It Affects Crypto NYT: Congress Approves First Big Dodd-Frank Rollback NYMAG: Barney Frank Talks More About the Surprise Shuttering of Signature Bank WSJ Editorial Board: Signature Bank’s Crypto Execution Unchained: FDIC Denies Asking Signature Buyers to Give Up Crypto: Report Was Signature Bank Actually Insolvent? Circle to Bring On New Banking Partner for USDC Minting, Redemption Circle Clears Backlog of USDC Minting and Redemption Requests Regulators Close Signature Bank Following SVB Collapse ​​Silvergate to Wind Down Operations in ‘Voluntary Liquidation’ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices