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The Pomp Podcast

Why Bitcoin's Rally Is Just Getting Started | Tom Lee

The Pomp Podcast

Anthony Pompliano

Business, Investing

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Tom Lee is the Co-Founder at Fundstrat, CIO of Fundstrat Capital, and Chairman of BitMine. In this episode, we dive into whether AI is a bubble, why this may be the most hated stock market rally in history, and how misleading economic data shapes investor sentiment. Tom also shares his latest views on Bitcoin, Ethereum, and why innovation in crypto markets is starting to outpace traditional finance.

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Timestamps:

  • 0:00 - Intro
  • 2:05 - Is AI a bubble?
  • 5:31 - Stock market fundamentals vs macro
  • 8:53 - Inside Tom Lee’s “Granny Shots” ETF
  • 13:28 - The rise and impact of humanoid robots
  • 19:22 - Why economic data is broken
  • 23:35 - Prediction markets and tokenized finance
  • 28:25 - Breakout crypto products
  • 34:32 - Gold vs Bitcoin
  • 38:30 - Is the bitcoin 4-year cycle over?
  • 42:32 - The most hated stock market rally?
  • 46:43 - Ethereum supercycle and BitMine
  • 54:39 - 2026 market outlook
  • 56:38 - Retail activism and Opendoor

Transcript

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So let's get in to today's episode.

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Anthony Pompliano runs Pomp Investments.

1:23.9

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1:26.5

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1:28.3

expressed by pomp or his guest as a specific inducement to make a particular investment or follow

1:33.6

a particular strategy, but only as an expression of his personal opinion. This podcast is for

1:38.8

informational purposes only. Well, gold is moves first and then Bitcoin catches up. So I think that there is going to be

1:49.7

the network value of gold just went up by a lot. And so let's say gold settles at 5,000. That puts

1:58.7

fair value of Bitcoin, you know, like 1-6 to 2 million if it matches

2:03.3

gold's network value.

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