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Why Bitcoin Now: Mike Novogratz and Raoul Pal on 'the Single Greatest Brand' of the Last 10 Years - Ep.179

Unchained

Laura Shin

News, Tech News, Business News

4.6 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2020

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

This episode is the first in a series, Why Bitcoin Now, that takes a deeper dive into Bitcoin and the history of money in the macroeconomic environment of the coronavirus. Mike Novogratz, founder, CEO and chairman of Galaxy Digital, and Raoul Pal, founder and CEO of Global Macro Investor and Real Vision Group, tell us where they think Bitcoin is going amidst this macro uncertainty and the global crisis due to the coronavirus. We discuss:  why Bitcoin’s price hasn't risen in price due to the global turmoil, and instead fell with the rest of the market on Black Thursday  why quantitative easing is the catalyst for institutional investors to turn to Bitcoin, but why that takes time, and why registered investment advisors may be on the cusp why they think retail investors will continue to buy Bitcoin despite record unemployment why Bitcoin will benefit from social unrest why any particular country's success in dealing with the coronavirus won’t really lessen the economic impact there whether China's first-mover advantage with the DCEP and its comprehensive enterprise blockchain initiatives will undermine the global dominance of the US dollar  why they believe there will ultimately be a dollar-based stablecoin  why they believe Libra will be a strong player in the future of stablecoins  how election outcomes, and in particular a potential movement to break up Big Tech, could affect Bitcoin and the vision for Web3 whether Ethereum, and staking, will see more adoption from institutional investors  why they believe yield farming is ultimately not sustainable, but still profitable the impact the Bitcoin halving will have in this macroeconomic environment Unchained is hiring!  Check out our job listing for a remote editorial assistant here! Thank you to our sponsors!  Crypto.com: https://crypto.com Kelman Law: https://crypto.law  Stellar: https://www.stellar.org  Episode links:  Mike Novogratz: https://twitter.com/novogratz Galaxy Digital: https://www.galaxydigital.io Raoul Pal: https://twitter.com/RaoulGMI Real Vision: https://www.realvision.com Unchained interview with Kyle Samani on what happened in the crypto markets on Black Thursday: https://unchainedpodcast.com/teetering-on-the-edge-how-black-thursday-exposed-the-flaws-in-the-crypto-markets/ Unconfirmed interview with Antoine Le Calvez on what happened on BitMEX during Black thursday: https://unchainedpodcast.com/what-happened-on-bitmex-during-black-thursday/ Unchained interview with Chamath Palihapitiya on Bitcoin: https://unchainedpodcast.com/chamath-palihapitiya-why-bitcoin-will-be-the-category-winner/ Brian Armstrong tweet about deposits to Coinbase the same size as the $1,200 stimulus check: https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/1250907110730170370?s=20 China's DCEP and blockchain initiative: https://unchainedpodcast.com/why-china-aims-to-replace-cash-with-the-digital-yuan/ Unchained interview on Libra: https://unchainedpodcast.com/a-libra-co-creator-on-how-facebook-will-make-money-from-calibra/ Unconfirmed interview with the Libra Association's Dante Disparte: https://unchainedpodcast.com/libras-dante-disparte-on-why-we-should-trust-a-financial-system-designed-by-facebook/ Unconfirmed interview with Michael Casey on why it would it would be good if Libra rivaled the USD: https://unchainedpodcast.com/why-it-would-be-good-if-libra-rivaled-the-us-dollar/ Christopher Giancarlo's digital dollar project: https://unchainedpodcast.com/christopher-giancarlo-why-the-us-needs-to-have-a-digital-dollar/ Ethereum 2.0 staking: https://www.coindesk.com/3-ways-staking-will-upend-the-economics-of-ethereum Unconfirmed with Kain Warwick on COMP's launch: https://unchainedpodcast.com/why-comp-5xed-on-day-1-and-what-this-means-for-a-defi-bull-market/ Unconfirmed interview with Tony Sheng on yield farming: https://unchainedpodcast.com/how-you-can-double-your-money-or-lose-everything/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Unchained is about a lot more than just podcasts. On our website unchained

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crypto.com you can also find crypto news, web three tutorials, and original

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videos. Check it all out at unchained crypto.com.

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Hi all, before we get into today's episode, a few quick notes.

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First, this is the inaugural show in a series I'm doing called

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Why Bitcoin Now, which looks more closely at Bitcoin in this macroeconomic

0:30.0

environment. We'll do a little dive into the history of money, the history of

0:33.8

Bitcoin, and also look more closely at the first cryptocurrency's monetary policy,

0:37.7

among other things. And we kick the whole thing off today with a discussion with Raoul Pal and Mike Novigrats on the overall

0:45.6

macro environment for Bitcoin. Plus we touch on other related initiatives like the Digital

0:50.9

Dollar, Libra, Ethereum, and Web3.

0:54.0

While the series won't be consecutive episodes in a row,

0:57.0

I will flag each one for you with the rubric Why the Coin Now

1:01.0

because I think the macroeconomic conditions are especially conducive to

1:05.1

understanding Bitcoin especially from a monetary perspective. One more note

1:10.0

this is the last unchain episode with my sound engineer Chris at

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fractal recording. He's been with me since day one of unchained which launched

1:18.8

more than four years ago. He's been my rock for these shows beyond professional and just an all-around

1:25.9

pleasure to work with. Plus he likes fractals like me which makes him really cool

1:30.9

in my book. Chris I'm going to miss you tremendously. Thank you

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for all the work you've done for me and my shows. I really wish you all the best.

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Now on to the show. Did you invest in a crypto project I.

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