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The Pomp Podcast

Why Bitcoin Is A Once-in-a Millennium Opportunity | Mel Mattison

The Pomp Podcast

Anthony Pompliano

Business, Investing

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 8 September 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Mel Mattison is an investor, author, and a former fintech executive. In this conversation we talk about the role of the Federal Reserve, why they historically have not been independent, who is to blame for current debasement, why gold and bitcoin are so important, and what Mel would do if he was Fed chair.

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  • 0:54 - Intro

  • 2:18 - The role of the Federal Reserve and are they independent?

  • 8:31 - Who is to blame for currency debasement?

  • 11:21 - Historical rundown of central banks and financial system

  • 16:38 - What changes would Mel make if he was Fed chair?

  • 31:09 - What will happen with gold and bitcoin?

  • 44:39 - What’s the argument to own stocks and real estate?

  • 49:24 - MMT and AI impact on lower interest rates

  • 55:51 - Is Mel buying anything other than gold or bitcoin? 

Transcript

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0:00.0

What's up, everyone? This is Anthony Pompliano. Many of you know me as Pomp. You're listening to the Pomp

0:07.7

podcast, which is my effort to find the most interesting people in the world and sit with them for hours while I ask questions in an effort to learn. So it would mean the world to me if you would subscribe to the show on your favorite audio platform, watch episodes on YouTube,

0:21.1

and tell your friends and family about the podcast. My goal is to help millions learn from the

0:26.5

world's most interesting people. So let's get in to today's episode. Anthony Pompliano

0:31.3

runs Pomp Investments. All views of him and the guests on his podcast are surely their

0:36.3

opinions and do not reflect the opinions

0:38.4

of pomp investments. You should not treat any opinion expressed by pomp or his guest as a

0:43.4

specific inducement to make a particular investment or follow a particular strategy, but only as

0:48.5

an expression of his personal opinion. This podcast is for informational purposes only.

0:54.0

We have these unbelievable fiscal,

0:57.3

you know, issues and you cannot pay five, six, seven percent on a 30 year and survive. It's all

1:03.9

going to go away. I don't care if you have to put in capital controls. I don't care if you

1:07.6

have to do a yield control. It just doesn't work any other way. You've got to get interest rates down. They're going to get interest rates down one way or another. And I think the equity market's going to like it. But I think who's going to love it even more is people that own gold and Bitcoin. What's going on guys? Today I've got a very special treat for you. We have Mel Madison. He's an

1:28.4

investor. He's an author. He's a former fintech executive. But more importantly, is this guy has been

1:33.8

all over what is happening in financial markets. He understands the Federal Reserve, the history

1:38.3

of central banks, what's going on with inflation, interest rates, and why certain assets like

1:42.8

gold and Bitcoin are doing so well.

1:44.6

Mel is somebody who's got unique views, sometimes contrarian views. Many people don't like them,

1:49.2

but he continues to be right over and over and over again over the last year or two. And so I brought

1:54.5

Mel on and we went deep into his view of the world of financial markets and even gives us a little

1:59.2

history lesson as to what's going on with

2:00.8

the Federal Reserve is not new. It's something that is deeply rooted in what's been happening for

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