Welcome to Zero. I am Akshut Rati. This week, Bill Gates, nuclear power, and Donald Trump.

Hi, Atchut. Hi, Mythalie. I am not Bill Gates.

I can tell.

It's a bummer.

I am the producer of Zero.

We had a busy couple of days, and I thought listeners might want to know that this conversation with Bill Gates was recorded in Stratford upon Avon, of all places, where we were in town to see the opening night of a new play about climate change put on by the Royal Shakespeare Company.

And the play is called Kyoto, and it is a play about international climate negotiations.

Things that I've attended, they have drama, but I never thought somebody could make a play about it.

So I was very excited to see what they've done, and we'll be bringing a review very soon.

But you were also very excited to talk to Bill Gates, so excited that we missed the first 10 minutes of the play,

while the kind folks at the Royal Shakespeare Company found a quiet place to record a conversation with Bill.

Why are you so excited to talk to him?

Bill Gates isn't just one of the richest people on the planet.

He's also somebody who takes climate change quite seriously.

He's been thinking about it for nearly two decades,

and he's investing serious sums of money in technology development.

And so given we are in the hottest year, given climate technologies aren't scaling as quickly

as we would want them to, it's always nice to hear how he's thinking about this moment, both

from a technology perspective and how the politics of this year where there are so many

elections happening will shape the future. And he's been in the news the last couple weeks because

of a new nuclear plant that he broke ground in in Kemmer, Wyoming. I was interested in this

because it's a tiny historic coal town, population less than 3,000 people. The coal plant

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