Welcome to the doctor's pharmacy. I'm Dr. Mark Hyman. This is a place for conversations

that matter. And I think this conversation today will really matter with Dr. Sonia Angel,

who's the deputy commissioner of the New York City Health Department in mental hygiene

and has done extraordinary work in her life. We're going to talk about it all. I'm really

thrilled to be here with her. She oversees the division of prevention and primary care

at the New York City Department of Health in mental hygiene. She's overseen nutrition and

policy initiatives across the government. She's been involved in restricting trans fats

in the New York City restaurants, which is then spread across the country. She's led a

national initiative around national salt reduction and established food procurement standards

for the New York City government agencies, meaning the government buys a lot of food. And

are they going to buy junk? Are they going to buy stuff that promotes health? And they

have the ability to do that. She's also helped move forward and changing labeling around

sodium and chain restaurants and expanding calorie label regulations. She's a practicing doctor.

She's board certified internal medicine. She's on the faculty of Columbia. And she went to UCSF

medical school. I did my residency there as well. She did her residency at Brigham and

Women's. She's got a diploma in tropical medicine hygiene from the London School of Hygiene

and Tropical Medicine and Masters in Public Health. You must have been in school for a long time.

She was a senior advisor for the global non-communicable disease at the CDC. And

non-communicable disease is basically hard to see diabetes. I don't think they're non-communicable.

I think they're very contagious and driven by the social environments in which we live.

And she's also Robert Wood Johnson clinical scholar and a fellow of the Aspen Institute Health

Innovators program. Quite a resume. And we met at this conference called Food for Thought,

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