Why Are We in Ukraine? / Benjamin Schwarz & Christopher Layne

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🗓️ 31 May 2023

⏱️ 95 minutes

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Writer and editor Benjamin Schwarz and international affairs scholar Christopher Layne join Chuck to discuss their recent Harper's article, "Why are We in Ukraine? On the dangers of American hubris." You can find their article here: https://harpers.org/archive/2023/06/why-are-we-in-ukraine/ Benjamin Schwarz was formerly the national and literary editor of The Atlantic and the executive editor of World Policy Journal. Christopher Layne is the University Distinguished Professor of International Affairs and the Robert M. Gates Chair in National Security at Texas A&M University.

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0:00.0	Bills I want money.
0:02.0	That's what I want.
0:06.0	That's what I want.
0:09.0	That's what I want. The war is will be.
0:14.0	The war is the war.
0:16.0	The war is our power.
0:17.0	The biggest!
0:19.0	Big attack! Oh, uh, no. Oh, uh.
0:24.0	Oh,
0:25.0	Oh, M.
0:27.0	Mee get back! This is hell. The future ain't what it used to be.
0:46.0	This is hell in February,
0:51.0	2022.
0:52.0	We were repeatedly being told by the Biden administration and the establishment
0:57.6	U.S. press outlets that every day we were careening toward what was increasingly becoming an inevitable and unavoidable war that would start with a completely unprovoked invasion of Ukraine by the Russia's military, which was led by Russian
1:19.7	President Vladimir Putin, who is an evil madman dedicated to restoring the power of Imperial
1:25.0	Russia that predates the most recent Russian evil, the Soviet Union.
1:31.6	That's what we were being told in a very concise way I guess
1:36.7	about what was taking place in Russia and Ukraine. The government in the media were
1:42.1	taking every opportunity they could here in the United States
1:45.2	to tell us that the Russian invasion of Ukraine was inevitable, unavoidable, and completely unprovoked.
1:55.0	But is anything inevitable and unavoidable?
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