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it's Girls Camp.

Hello friends, hello campers. Welcome back to Girls Camp, you know who it is, your host, Haley Rawl.

I have the loveliest conversation in store for you today. I sit down with one of my best friends

Kiley Kadich and Kiley grew up in Utah but she is a never Mormon.

And I have had this specific viewpoint perspective life experience

requested multiple times because there are a lot of never Mormon listeners who have the Mormon connection because they grew up in Utah

and there are a lot of people fascinated by Utah and what it would be like to live in Utah and not be Mormon.

So Kylie and I delve into all of that.

Kylie is a social media influencer. She does Instagram, she does Tik-Tock, and she

does it phenomenally. We talk about this a bit in the episode but we talk about

her journey into influencing and kind of the influencer Mormon Utah

connection and we dig into why we think that is the case.

But I just wanted to say off the top, Kylie is amazing.

Go follow her on all platforms and you will have the time of your life.

She is so entertaining, she is so fun, and just a lovely, lovely person,

which if you didn't already know that, you will soon find out in course of this conversation.

One quick note, I do not say this at the beginning of the conversation,

but I reference throughout the conversation Alex, Alex is Kylie's husband, and Esti, Esti is Kylie's husband and Esti.

Esti is Kylie's daughter.

Another note is Kylie and I end up discussing

the Mormon theology around hell and the afterlife but hell specifically and I could not

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