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The News Agents

Why are Labour calling Sunak a liar?

The News Agents

Global

Government, News, Daily News, Politics

4.15.4K Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2024

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Rishi Sunak accused Keir Starmer of planning to put people's taxes up by £2,000 if he got into power - sums he said had been independently verified. This morning we learned they werent, after a top civil servant put the record straight.

Labour are calling the PM a liar (he repeated his claim 11 times), but the Tories are standing by their figure - and say all's fair in love and campaign war.

We discuss what TV debates do for viewers' understanding of policy, and find out what voters in Leigh took away from the TV clash. Later, Richard Holden, the actual Tory chairman, seems to be vacating one seat and parachuting himself into a safer one down south. His colleagues are up in arms.

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0:00.0

The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity.

0:09.1

This is a global player original podcast.

0:12.6

Inflation is back to normal, wages are growing, taxes are now being cut.

0:17.5

Kirstama would put all that progress at risk. He would put up everyone's taxes by

0:22.7

£2,000. 2,000 pounds in higher taxes. That £2,000 claim isn't true. But Rishi Suna went on

0:31.6

to repeat it 11 times during that TV debate last night. And today, Labour have called him out as a liar.

0:40.3

Last night, what was exposed is just how desperate Rishi Sunak has become, because he lied about Labour's tax plans.

0:48.3

Well, Rishi Sunak has it in his head, but Rishi Sunak lies. There's Rishi Sunak who lied 12 times in the debate last night about Labour's tax plans.

0:59.0

The truth is it's the Conservatives that have taken the tax burden.

1:03.0

The chief civil servant in the Treasury has not accused Rishi Sunak of lying,

1:08.0

but he has said civil servants were not involved in the production or

1:13.9

presentation of the Conservative Party's document. Someone isn't telling the truth. Welcome to the

1:21.3

newsagents. The newsagents. It's John. It's Emily.

1:28.1

And it's only about 12 hours ago that we were sitting in this studio doing the post-match on the

1:33.2

debate and working out whether all those times that Rishi Sunak said, taxes will go up

1:38.5

£2,000 and Kirstama took a long time to try and close it down, whether this was a decisive moment.

1:45.9

Today the debate has shifted with a letter from the permanent secretary at the Treasury,

1:51.6

saying this was not civil service work.

1:55.3

The way this document has come together was about the Conservative Party and not about us.

2:00.6

And you're then left with the central

2:02.5

question, well, was Rishi Sunak lying last night? Yeah. And in a moment you're going to hear from

2:10.1

a former Cabinet Secretary who explains to us that being asked to make up these costings or do

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