Why Anti-Racism Means Anti-Capitalism w/ Arun Kundnani

Guerrilla History

Henry

History, Education

4.8 • 622 Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2023

⏱️ 116 minutes

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Summary

In this important episode, Arun Kundnani comes on the show to discuss his new book What Is Antiracism?: And Why It Means Anticapitalism. This is a fascinating discussion that focuses on liberal vs. radical conceptions of antiracism, and why liberal antiracism has proven powerless against structural oppression. This topic is important for us to think about as we build movements that tackle all forms of oppression, including racial oppression.

Arun Kundnani has been active in antiracist movements in Britain and the United States for three decades. He is a former editor of the journal Race & Class and was a scholar-in-residence at the Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture at the New York Public Library. His website can be found at https://www.kundnani.org/ and you can follow him on Twitter @@ArunKundnani.

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0:00.0	You remember Den Van Boo?
0:09.0	No!
0:10.0	The same thing happened in Algeria, in Africa.
0:14.0	They didn't have anything but a rank.
0:17.0	The French had all these highly mechanized instruments of warfare, but they put some guerrilla action on.
0:27.2	Hello and welcome to guerrilla history, the podcast that acts is a reconnaissance report of global proletarian history and aims to use the lessons of history to analyze the present.
1:20.0	I'm one of your co-hosts, Henry Huckimacki, joined as usual by my two co-hosts, Professor Adnan Hussein, historian and director at the School of Religion at Queen's University in Ontario, Canada. Hello, Adnan. How are you doing today? I'm doing well, Henry. It's great to be with you. It's always nice to see you. Also joined as usual by Brett O'Shea, who of course is host of Revolutionary Left Radio and co-host of the Red Menace podcast. Hello, Brett. How are you today? Hello, I'm doing very good. It's always nice to see you as well. Now, before I introduce our guests on the topic at hand, I want to remind the listeners that you can help support the show by going to patreon.com forward slash gorilla history, with guerrilla being spelled G-U-E-R-R-I-L-L-A history.
1:28.5	All of your contributions there are what allow us to continue doing the show as we never run ads, and we have no external funding other than from listeners like you. You can also keep up with the show on Twitter or whatever the show is,
1:32.3	whatever the website is named by searching for at Gorilla underscore Pod,
1:36.4	again, G-E-R-R-I-L-A-U-L-A-U-Skod.
1:40.2	Now, today we have an excellent guest about a really fascinating book.
1:44.0	We're joined by Arun Kunani,
1:46.3	who is author of the new book, What is Anti-Racism and Why It Means Anti-Capitalism?
1:52.9	Hello, Arun. It's nice to have you on the show. Hi, folks. Good to be here. Thank you having me.
1:58.7	Absolutely. I know that we're all very excited to talk
2:01.2	about this book with you, but I want to get the conversation started by just focusing on one
2:07.6	phrase within the title of your book and then having you kind of trace out this phrase through
2:13.8	history, which is anti-racism. Anti-racism is something that is very present within popular consciousness right now,
2:21.4	although the framing of anti-racism within popular consciousness, broadly speaking,
2:26.3	is a very liberal conception of anti-racism.
2:30.0	And within your work, one of the things that you do is you trace anti-racism along two paths,
2:35.4	a liberal conception of anti-racism and a radical conception of anti-racism, starting really back
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