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This is the indicator from Planet Money.

I'm Waylon Wong, and I'm here with friend of the show, Stephen Besaha, from the Gulf States Newsroom.

Good to be with you, Waylon, and especially happy to be here on Jobs Friday.

Yes, it is Jobs Friday, and as you can maybe tell from our horn, it is a highly unusual Jobs Friday.

Yeah, I cannot actually remember when we had a usual Jobs Friday.

Oof, yes, we are in uncharted waters because the federal government is shut down.

And a shutdown government means no Friday jobs report.

Now, there are at least some other sources of jobs data.

Less comprehensive than what the Bureau of Labor Statistics produces, of course.

But, hey, you know, they're actually getting released, so we'll take it.

Right. We have the payroll company ADP and Revelliul Labs, which maintains and sells its own workforce data.

Revelli's September jobs report said the U.S. economy added about 60,000 jobs.

And the company's chief economist says, combine that with numbers from ADP.

And the BLS likely would have come in around 38,000 jobs.

So still some shaky signs for the job market.

Yeah.

And the Revelli report also looks at state employment.

And there's some pretty big differences depending on where you live.

Like California gained about 25,000 jobs, while Texas lost 10,000.

So with some parts of the country being more boom and others being more bust, you might

imagine Americans packing up the U-Haul and chasing down those opportunities across

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