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First of all, there are allies, but we have our, we have the misfortune of having, I would say, somewhat unreliable and counterproductive allies who don't share necessarily our interests and almost certainly don't share our values.

So do we really want our Arab allies to be jumping in and kind of

doing and doing whatever they like when that can be contrary to American

national security interest.

I mean that's number one. You're listening to War College, a weekly podcast that brings you the stories from behind the

front lines.

Here are your hosts, Matthew Galt and Jason Fields. Hello and

welcome to War College. I'm Matthew Gault.

Saudi Arabia is one of America's oldest and most important allies.

Since the end of World War II, America and the kingdom have

fostered an alliance that shaped the Middle East. That relationship has always been

strange and strained, but it took a huge blow after Saudi Arabia assassinated

journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

In the wake of the killing, people began asking questions about the alliance and Saudi Arabia's

young and allegedly progressive new leader Mohammed bin Salman, or MBS. So who is MBS? What's so troubling

about Saudi and Arabia and why is it so important to you a strategy in the

Middle East? Here to help us untangle all of this is shoddy Hamid. Hamid is a senior fellow at the Brookings

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