Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the Epic Gardening podcast to start final episode for

now with Jacques the Garden Hermit. We've talked a lot about your garden, Jacques, and how

it differs. I guess we haven't talked about how it differs from mine, but it is more

traditional, I suppose, is, would be the word. It just looks more like a standard garden. And some

might say it's a little messier than mine, but mine is almost built like someone who obviously

grew up playing video games and like spreadsheets and stuff like that. So obviously that influences

in my garden. And there's different goals for my garden too. But why is your garden the way

that it is? And why is that not necessarily a bad thing? I mean, I don't think it looks

matter to me. It looks full. Yeah. So I mean, I, you know, when I do research, like I tend to be

very like organized, clean, and all that. But in the garden, I really like to, I guess, be more

creative and sort of let nature sort of guide me in that sense. So some things that people are very

vigilant about is something like weeding. So lately, I've actually taken the ethos of like I do

want a weed because they are competing with a lot of plants. But I don't necessarily take everything

out. And the reason why I do this is because I've noticed that sometimes I leave weeds and the pests

will eat the weeds instead of my plants. So why take away their food source if my new food source

is going to be my plant? Another thing I really actually like about weeds is they're one of my go-to

ways to check to see if I've watered a bed enough. So one of these things that I started doing lately

is if I see a weed in the middle of a bed, I'll pull it. And then I'll look at the roots of the weed.

If the roots of the weed are really dry, then I'm going to assume that I actually haven't watered

this bed enough. If they come out really easily and they're very wet covered in my soil,

then I'm like, okay, I'm definitely good on water right here. Yeah. So I actually use weeds a lot

to kind of help me in the garden. One of the other things that might be perceived as like messy is I

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