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Matter of Opinion

Whose Pride Is It Anyway?

Matter of Opinion

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Ross Douthat, News, New York Times, Journalism

4.27.2K Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2021

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

It’s Pride Month, which means cities across the country will be having parades and other festivities, albeit scaled-down versions. In New York and several other cities, parade organizers have said uniformed police officers may not march as a group. Organizers say the move acknowledges that a Pride march isn’t just a celebration and that it began as a statement about police violence against L.G.B.T.Q. people at the Stonewall Inn. This week, Jane Coaston speaks to André Thomas, a co-chair of NYC Pride, which organizes the parade, and Brian Downey, a New York Police Department detective and the president of the Gay Officers Action League.

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0:00.0

Hi, Jane. My name is Mark from New York City. I'm arguing with my friends online with strangers

0:12.8

and just feeling internally conflicted about the New York City pride decision to not let

0:19.4

LGBT officers march in the parade and drawn some condemnation from places like the New

0:25.9

York Times, but I've also seen a lot of really passionate support for it from community activists.

0:31.3

And I'm feeling torn myself because Stonewall was a riot against police ray and police brutality,

0:37.9

which continues today. But I also refuse to believe that every single police officer is

0:42.7

that that person. And I think that there are good decent LGBT police officers out there.

0:48.3

Today on the argument, is it wrong to ban gay cops from marching on a parade in

0:55.8

uniform?

1:00.8

I'm Jane Kostin, and at my very first pride parade in St. Louis, Missouri, I remember being

1:06.7

struck by the sight of cops in uniforms marching and holding hands with their partners. Not

1:11.5

just because they were cops, but because the idea of being a cop and being out was stunning

1:16.0

to me at the time. That you could simultaneously hold two identities in public, and everyone

1:21.7

could know about both of them, and that could be okay. But I also know that the origin

1:26.9

story of pride is a story of police brutality. The Compton's cafeteria riots of 1966,

1:32.7

the Stonewall uprising in June 1969, both for reactions to police violence against LGBT

1:38.5

people, state violence against LGBT people. Last year, protesters said NYPD officers used

1:45.1

pepper spray and shoved demonstrators at a queer liberation march in New York's Washington

1:49.9

Square Park. A year after the agency apologized for the actions taken by officers at Stonewall

1:55.7

50 years earlier. In response, this year, NYC pride and pride marches across the country

2:01.9

have decided to bar uniformed officers from marching. Police officers are still welcome

2:06.5

to participate, but not in uniform.

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