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Whose Biolab Made COVID-19: China’s Wuhan Institute Of Virology or USA’s UNC Chapel Hill? Dr. Li-Meng Yan Debates Dr. Clayton Baker – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 487

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Dr. Drew

Health & Fitness, News Commentary, News, Politics

4.7759 Ratings

🗓️ 31 May 2025

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Whose lab created SARS-CoV-2? Virologist Dr. Li-Meng Yan says it was “all China.” But Dr. Clayton Baker insists US biolabs at UNC Chapel Hill played a role. A new Brownstone report points at “US virologist Ralph Baric” and alleges damning details that indicate he “engineered the Covid-19 virus SARS-CoV-2 in his lab at the University of North Carolina as part of his work in connection with the 2018 DEFUSE funding proposal” first leaked by “Major Joseph Murphy, an employee of US military research agency DARPA, in the summer of 2021…” Dr. Li-Meng Yan is a Chinese virologist with an MD from Central South University and PhD in ophthalmology from Southern Medical University. She hosts The Voice of Dr. Yan on America Out Loud Radio Network and is best known for publishing claims that SARS-CoV-2 originated in a Chinese lab. More at https://x.com/DrLiMengYAN1 Dr. Clayton Baker, an internal medicine physician, has over 25 years in clinical practice. He served as Clinical Associate Professor at the University of Rochester from 2012 to 2018. His work appears in the Journal of the American Medical Association and the New England Journal of Medicine. He authored The Medical Masquerade and contributes to Brownstone Institute. More at https://x.com/cjbakermd 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 Find out more about the brands that make this show possible and get special discounts on Dr. Drew's favorite products at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/sponsors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • ACTIVE SKIN REPAIR - Repair skin faster with more of the molecule your body creates naturally! Hypochlorous (HOCl) is produced by white blood cells to support healing – and no sting. Get 20% off at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/skinrepair⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 MEDICAL NOTE 」 Portions of this program may examine countervailing views on important medical issues. Always consult your physician before making any decisions about your health. 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 Ask Dr. Drew is produced by Kaleb Nation (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠) and Susan Pinsky (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/firstladyoflov⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠e⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠). This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Well, today we're going to have a little friendly debate about the source of the virus, the Wuhan lab virus, so to speak.

0:09.8

Clayton Baker is in here, has written this book, which I recommend most highly.

0:13.3

It's published by the Brownstone Institute.

0:15.3

And I really enjoyed reading it.

0:17.0

We're going to talk about that.

0:18.0

He's a colleague, and it was interesting watching his thinking unfold in real time in this book. It's the way I felt it. We're going to talk about that. He's a colleague and it was interesting watching his

0:21.0

thinking unfold in real time in this book. It's the way I felt it kind of plays itself out.

0:26.8

And we're having Dr. Lee Meng Yan back again. She can be followed on X, D-R-L-I-M-E-N-G-Y-A-N-1. Dr. Lee-Meng-Y-N-1.

0:36.7

She has been a very outspoken critic of the Wuhan lab and the source of the virus, and she was someone who was a virologist and a physician and worked in a lab, a bio-lab in Hong Kong and started raising questions about this very virus and was threatened with being disappeared. And then she did disappear, but she reemerged here.

0:56.4

And we have the great public of talking to her right after this.

1:00.5

Our laws as it pertain to substances are draconian and bizarre.

1:04.8

The psychopaths start this.

1:05.9

He was an alcoholic because of social media and pornography, PTSD, love addiction.

1:10.8

Fentanyl and heroin.

1:11.9

Ridiculous.

1:13.1

I'm a doctor for a c-a-said.

1:14.6

Where the hell you think I learned that?

1:16.3

I'm just saying, you go to treatment before you kill people.

1:19.5

I am a clinician.

1:20.4

I observe things about these chemicals.

1:22.1

But just deal with what's real.

1:23.0

We used to get these calls on Loveland all the time.

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