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🗓️ 13 December 2021
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Shortly after Jeanne’s death, Fred starts seeing Verna, one of Jeanne’s closest friends. It’s a whirlwind romance, and soon they’re merging families. The timeline of their relationship stokes Malibu gossip, and, later, piques the interest of detectives. Was it just a coincidence that Verna’s first husband had died unexpectedly, too?
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0:00.0 | Pushkin |
0:13.0 | When Vernus' first husband Bill Johnson died, she inherited their duplex on broad beach in Malibu. |
0:20.0 | She and her kids Kim and Doug lived in one half. |
0:23.0 | In an early 1976, she rented out the other half to her friends Patty and John Lytel and their two kids. |
0:31.0 | Patty soon met Gene Rayler. |
0:33.0 | The three of them, Patty, Vernus and Gene, all had kids around the same age, so these started spending a lot of time together. |
0:41.0 | On October 15th, the day Gene went into a coma, Patty had spent the day at home babysitting Fred and Gene's younger daughter. |
0:49.0 | Patty didn't find out that Gene was in the hospital until the next morning. |
0:54.0 | Here she is, telling the story to an investigator while on break from her job at the bank. |
0:59.0 | I was going to get my hair done that day and Vernus came running out of her side of the house. |
1:03.0 | It, you know, just hysterical and told me what it had. |
1:07.0 | She was just ready for it. |
1:08.0 | Yeah. |
1:09.0 | After Gene's memorial service, Patty and Vernus went to a Mexican restaurant in Ventura called the Red Onion. |
1:14.0 | As they sat there trying to process everything that had just happened, their vibrant, confident friend, dead at 34, |
1:22.0 | under such ambiguous and bizarre circumstances, they allowed themselves to think the unthinkable. |
1:29.0 | What if Fred had murdered her? |
1:32.0 | Fred had made such a big deal, you know, that if Gene died, she'd speculated we both speculated whether he had killed her then. |
1:44.0 | I remember because we were seeing up with the Red Onion in Ventura after the funeral. |
1:49.0 | And we had sat there getting some hard work. |
1:53.0 | We had a special meeting with the men. |
1:55.0 | I had numerous times getting drunk, I'm pretty sure he had done it or not. |
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