Who will be Britain’s next prime minister? With Andrew Marr

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🗓️ 22 July 2022

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Summary

With Penny Mordaunt having been eliminated from the contest on Wednesday 20 July, either Rishi Sunak or Liz Truss will become Britain’s next prime minister.

Anoosh Chakelian and Rachel Cunliffe speak to the New Statesman’s political editor, Andrew Marr, about how the Johnson “loyalist” and the “traitor” emerged victorious, whether Boris Johnson will indeed be back as he hinted in his final PMQs, and the climate emergency that overshadows this race.

Then, in You Ask Us, a listener asks: why Liz Truss? What are the qualities that her a backers believe would make her a good PM?

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Anouche and I'm Andrew and I'm Rachel and on today's episode of the New
0:07.0	Statesman podcast we discuss Rishi Sunak vs Liz Truss and you ask us why are
0:12.8	people behind Liz Truss? We don't get it.
0:20.8	So let's start with the final two who are now going head to head for the
0:25.6	hearts of the Tory members. Rishi Sunak and Liz Truss, how did it come to this?
0:30.1	It came to this because there's been a very very savage campaign against
0:35.5	other candidates, particularly against Penny Mordent, particularly waged through
0:39.6	the Daily Mail and I think directed quite heavily from the centre of
0:43.2	government number 10 or wherever, because Boris Johnson still hangs over this
0:48.1	contest as a personality. He is furious about his defonestration, feels
0:53.6	bitterly unfair and blames Rishi Sunak in particular for it and therefore he
0:59.0	wants to get Rishi, anyone but Rishi and it's pretty clear that Liz Truss is his
1:04.2	candidate, she didn't resign from his cabinet and she's already said that
1:08.4	she wishes he hadn't gone, so this is the sort of Johnson candidacy. And Penny
1:13.5	Mordent was the other one, so because number 10 wanted it to be Rishi vs Liz
1:19.2	and then Liz to win, they went for Penny Mordent in a pretty ferocious and
1:23.6	extraordinary way. Right, and then that sort of suggests that Liz Truss is a
1:28.4	little bit trapped, isn't she? Because she does have to make these statements
1:31.4	about how she regrets his defonestration because she's got this huge backing
1:35.8	behind her. I'm not sure trapped, she's certainly in quite a narrow position in
1:40.8	the sense that she has got and we'll have on her side, it'll matter a
1:44.9	lot now, I suspect people like Lord Crudders, the Tory donor, the the Johnson
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