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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Who’s to Blame for the LA Fires?

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate

News, Daily News, News Commentary, Politics

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

The fires in Los Angeles may end up being one of—if not the most—expensive natural disasters in American history. Everyone is trying to find the party responsible. It isn’t that simple. Guest: Gabrielle Canon, climate reporter and extreme weather correspondent for The Guardian US. Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-free access to What Next and all your other favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Living in New York City, my understanding of the fires in Los Angeles is totally mediated by images on the internet.

0:14.1

Pictures of embers swirling in the wind.

0:17.3

A kid's video of his devastated neighborhood with the caption,

0:21.4

Thy House, and of course, the maps.

0:27.7

But it wasn't until I called up Gabriel Cannon from over the Guardian

0:31.8

that I realized how universal the fear is in L.A.

0:36.0

We talked back on Friday.

0:40.4

I was on the fireline for much of yesterday in the day before, but you kind of duck out to check in and get service and or file copy. And so I'd be

0:48.1

like in some little cafe, like using the bathroom and trying to get cell service. And then

0:53.3

everyone's phones collectively would start wailing that another evacuation order had been extended.

0:59.6

And so I think people are just getting hammered because it feels like you really have nowhere to go or it feels completely safe.

1:07.7

Gabrielle's been staying with her mom, helping to get her go bag ready.

1:12.0

Her day job, though, is as an extreme weather correspondent.

1:16.3

The first person to have that title at her paper, so this fire is definitely her area of expertise.

1:22.4

It's rare in my line of work with my beat for me to be left speechless.

1:28.7

But that's how it felt.

1:31.8

I mean, walking through this community that was, you know, people described to me as a sanctuary

1:38.6

for families.

1:40.1

And it's gone.

1:41.7

It's completely gone.

1:43.9

Even if your house is saved, there's little left for you there if your community's gone. I mean...

1:50.7

Yeah, what are you going back to?

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