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Plain English with Derek Thompson

Who's Afraid of a Four-Day Work Week?

Plain English with Derek Thompson

The Ringer

News Commentary, News

4.81.8K Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2022

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

4 Day Week Global is a nonprofit organization that recently conducted a trial with 33 companies and 900 workers that replaced the typical five-day week with a four-day work week with no change in pay. After the six-month trial ended, 97 percent of employees who responded said they didn’t want to go back to five days per week, and most employers rated the overall experience 9 out of 10. The pandemic showed us that so much about the way we work is an accident of history, solidified by familiarity and the passage of time. Maybe the office is where we should do all white-collar work. Or maybe that’s wrong. Maybe a two-day weekend is all people need to feel perfectly recharged. Or maybe that’s wrong. Maybe, in some cases, four is greater than five. Juliet Schor is an economist at Boston College and a lead researcher on the four-day work week trial. We talked about how work and the economy might be reorganized in her vision of a four-day work week, why even employers might appreciate an extra day off, and why Americans’ relationship to work, time, and well-being needs some kind of revolution. If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at [email protected]. You can find us on TikTok at www.tiktok.com/@plainenglish_ Host: Derek Thompson Guest: Juliet Schor Producer: Devon Manze Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

An Instagram post gets an unexpected boost. A TikTok catches in the algorithm.

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Sometimes that's all it takes to launch someone into internet fame.

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But then what?

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This blew up is a new podcast documentary that reveals how social media

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start and is made. It's a different kind of fame.

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It's not always as glamorous as it looks.

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From Spotify and the Ring or Podcast Network, I'm Alyssa Bereznek.

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You can listen to this blew up on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:31.0

Oh, is that a pumpkin spice latte?

0:33.0

No, it's the pumpkin spice latte.

0:36.0

Starbucks.

0:37.0

Obviously. You know I once got so obsessed with pumpkin spice.

0:40.0

I only wore orange for a month.

0:42.0

That's nothing. I once got so obsessed I got a pumpkin shame into my hair.

0:45.0

Oh yeah? Well last year I cured outside Starbucks for a week.

0:48.0

And my tent was a shape of a pumpkin?

0:50.0

Well, I'm changing my name to pumpkin spicy.

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The Starbucks original is back. Go all out pumpkin spice.

0:58.0

Subject to availability while stocks last.

1:29.0

Today's episode is about a dream.

1:33.0

A dream called the four day work week.

1:37.0

One of the topics I write about most in my other gig at the Atlantic

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