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This is America First and here's your host Dr. Sebastian Gorka.

Over the past week, after you've watched what's going on, we can't be under any illusions.

Like a fact that racism is alive and well in our country and I can't be

under any illusions that we don't have it in our native.

It's always the case dear friends, the story may break in the news, but its origins are much older

and go much deeper. I'm Sebastian Gorka, this is America First with a very special interview.

Somebody was on the show recently for just a couple of segments, but you wanted more.

He is the man who has done more than most to actually shed a light on the corrosive effects of

something called critical race theory throughout the United States and especially the government.

Welcome back Chris Rufo to America First.

It's great to be with you.

Director of the Discovery Institute Center on Wealth and Poverty, here's the

director, the producer of a fabulous movie called America Lost. You've got to see it.

AmericaLostFilm.com. His work led in large part, if not the lion's share, to the

initiation, the initiative of the Trump administration to ban critical race theory

from federal government visiting fellow at the Heritage Foundation. Chris, I started our

discussion and welcome back without video because that video of an officer in full combat dress

is from somebody called Mike Gilday, who holds the rank of CNO, which is the Chief of Naval

Operations. It's the highest officer in the US military responsible for our Navy and our Marines

being able to do their war fighting jobs. And that video wasn't from last week. It wasn't a

reaction this weekend to Tucker Carlson and Fox News. That was from the last year. That was the

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