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The Daily

Who Killed Haiti’s President?

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 22 July 2021

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

A promise of a well-paying assignment abroad for retired Colombian soldiers. A security company in Miami. An evangelical Haitian American pastor with lofty ideas. Trying to join the dots in the assassination of President Jovenel Moïse took us from the Caribbean to South America to Florida — and there are still plenty of questions. Guest: Julie Turkewitz, the Andes bureau chief for The New York Times, and Frances Robles, a national and foreign correspondent for The Times based in Florida.

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0:00.0

From New York Times, I'm Michael Bavaro. This is Analey.

0:10.0

Today, what were learning about who was behind the plot to kill the president of Haiti?

0:19.0

I spoke with my colleagues, Julie Turquoise in Columbia, and Francis Robles in Miami.

0:25.0

It's Thursday, July 22nd.

0:31.0

Julie, the last time we talked about the assassination of Haiti's president, Jovenel Moise, all that we knew was that a group of what had been described as highly trained men, many of them speaking English and Spanish, and some of them claiming to be American drug enforcement agents walked into the president's home and without any real resistance fatally shot him. So where does your reporting pick up?

0:58.0

So my reporting picks up when Colombian officials come out just after the assassination and announce that several of the individuals arrested by Haitian officials are not only Colombians, but Colombian former soldiers, many of whom have just retired.

1:20.0

I live here in Boatay, in Columbia, and I realize that I'm definitely going to be a part of this reporting.

1:29.0

So myself and my colleague, Anatoly Krumeneyev, decide that we're going to start to try and figure out who these guys are and why they decided to go to Haiti.

1:41.0

What did they know about this project and what brought them there?

1:44.0

We realized very quickly that we cannot interview these individuals because they are in Haitian custody and we don't know where they're being held or who has contact with them. But what we can do is talk to their relatives.

2:03.0

Thank you very much to all of you. My name is Julie. And so the two of us working with two other reporters here on the ground begin to interview the wives and other family members of these soldiers.

2:19.0

It's a bit over his wife and we interviewed about 30 individuals and basically asked them to walk us through what the recruitment process looked like.

2:35.0

And what did you learn from these dozens of people that you interviewed?

2:40.0

So many of these men have very similar stories and we spoke to many, many wives.

2:46.0

They started to talk to us about how many wives they have.

2:50.0

And one who stuck out to us was a woman named Diana.

2:57.0

My husband is a professional soldier.

3:01.0

Diana's husband is one of the soldiers who is currently held in Haitian custody. He's accused in this murder.

3:09.0

And his name is Franco Castelleda. And Franco is 39 years old. He lives in Gali. He has two children and Franco has just retired from the Colombian military.

3:26.0

My husband is very fond of his family. He is like many of these men desperate for work that can really help his family get ahead.

3:41.0

My husband called me this year because I was a young man.

3:47.0

And so one day earlier this year Franco gets this message.

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