Who Is Fighting Whom?

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

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4.7 • 963 Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2021

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Commentators often think that the threat to democracy comes from those who feel left behind - the ones who feel voiceless and vote accordingly. But what if the rise of populism was provoked, in part, by the growth of "a new managerial class" that rules the key institutions of society in its own favor? That is what Michael Lind, a co-founder of New America and a professor at the University of Texas at Austin, argues in his latest book, The New Class War. In this week’s episode of The Good Fight, Yascha Mounk and Michael Lind debate the dangers posed by the new managerial class, what kind of structural changes would be needed to contain populism, and the prospects for real change. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: goodfightpod@gmail.com Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John T. Williams and Rebecca Rashid Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:01.0	We don't really know when the first human being contracted COVID-19.
1:09.2	It also increasingly feels as though they won't have a clear end date.
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1:18.0	into our arms will feel like the end of a pandemic, but there won't be one day in which we can declare the end of
1:26.1	a pandemic worldwide. Even if we ultimately manage to eradicate COVID-19, we likely won't know the exact time or day.
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2:03.2	There has obviously been a lot of suffering,
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