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It's not often that you get to meet people who are some of the most fascinating people that exist, people that have experienced not only business at the highest level, but politics at the highest level, who have a comprehensive

understanding of complex problem sets and their ability to solve those in extreme environments.

And so the fact that one of my friends, George Soriel, has decided to join us today is not

both just exciting for me because of the amount of respect

I have for this man, but also because of the knowledge base he has and our ability to share

that with all of you. So without further ado, I'd love to welcome George to the show.

Thank you, David. My honor, my pleasure to be here.

Those are some very kind words. I'm not sure I deserve them all. That's what you always say.

But I do appreciate them. So thank you. Good. You're welcome. I think, you know, everybody, obviously,

we're in this crazy space of the tsunami tsunami of of news stories and how they've

were no longer contained in this eight channel you know a fish bowl of information and now it's it's

at an all-time high in particular.

You spend five seconds on X.

And there's so many independent journalists going around.

And what I've seen in particular, as the president has now moved into his second term,

is the craziness is even more expansive. And it's the whole thing is

who is he, why is he do, why is he operate like this? What gives him the right for this? Or he's like

this or he's like that. You're a person that has known the president intimately for 25 years now. And I thought it would be interesting to start

the conversation with what it was like working in his organization, working for him,

your, your, the relationship, but more importantly, the dynamic of running a multi-billion dollar organization

around the world and what that was like sure well i i think shortly i would first say that i

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