With the race for the White House as close as ever, the election could come down to a small number of undecided voters.

But in a hyper-partisan political climate, who are those people that are still unsure.

NPR's Dominico Montanaro spoke to a handful of undecided voters who have responded to our

regular PBS news and PR Maris Poll.

He's here to walk us through what they're thinking good to see you.

Good to see you too.

So when we talk about undecided, how many people are we?

How big is this block?

And how are they still undecided?

It is a tiny slice of people, right? I're talking in recent years anywhere from 6% who are genuinely

Persuatable to maybe the low teens right and really in this election given how people know so much about Donald Trump in

particular and when President Biden was running it was a really really small

number of people I mean in our poll it was like 3% of people who were undecided.

And then when Harris got in, we saw a dip in that

and there were more people who moved to be undecided.

But still, it was only about 9% of people.

But immediately after that, as soon as they started to see a little bit more about

Kamala Harris people started to make up their minds.

So in these big election events post debate for example where are they now and

what should we take away from the shifts you're laying out?

Well, so in the NPR PBS News, Maris Poll, we had 46 people over the last several months who said that they were undecided.

And what I did was reach out to 10 of them and we had five men, five

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