Michigan's Governor Gretchen Whitmer has been a rising star of the Democratic Party, sometimes

mentioned as someone who could one day occupy the White House.

I spoke with the governor earlier today about this presidential race and her book True Gretsch, what I've learned about life,

leadership and everything in between. Governor Whitmer, welcome back to the news hour.

Thanks for joining us.

Thank you.

Good to be with you.

So let's start with the news of the day.

I'm sure as you have seen in your state and Michigan,

polls actually show that President Biden is doing better over time

and is now leading former President Trump earlier in the show.

We did report on the fact that they've seen this shift post debate in six states, including

three battleground states, away from President Biden towards

former President Trump. You've also now seen folks like Senator Bennett coming out and

saying he believes Trump could win in a landslide that the Republicans could

control not only the White House but also the

Senate and the House help us understand your position right now which is to

square the messaging to say beating former President Trump is existential to

save democracy,

but also I'm continuing to back the candidate

that seems to be losing by more as time goes on.

Well, listen, I am from one of the swingiest of states, the state of Michigan.

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