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White Supremacy And Its Online Reach

It's Been a Minute

NPR

Society & Culture, News, News Commentary, Religion & Spirituality, Spirituality

4.79.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2020

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Talia Lavin went undercover in white supremacist online communities, creating fake personas that would gain her access to the dark reaches of the internet normally off-limits to her, a Jewish woman. That research laid the groundwork for her book, Culture Warlords: My Journey Into the Dark Web of White Supremacy. Lavin talks to Sam about what it was like to infiltrate those online spaces, what she learned, and how white supremacy cannot exist without anti-Semitism.

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0:00.0

Listeners, Sam here.

0:01.1

So heads up.

0:02.1

This episode contains detailed conversation

0:05.2

about misogyny, racism, and sexual violence.

0:09.0

It is very educational and informative,

0:11.4

but perhaps not suitable for children.

0:14.1

All right, let's get to it.

0:21.2

Every day for nearly a year,

0:23.1

I immersed myself in chat groups and websites and forums

0:26.7

where photos of lynchings were passed around

0:28.9

like funny memes, where kill Jews was a slogan,

0:33.2

and murderers were called saints.

0:36.6

That is the voice of Talia Levin.

0:38.8

She is reading from the introduction of her new book.

0:42.5

I silently observed as Neo Nazis mused about what raping me

0:46.2

would be like.

0:47.4

And what a book it is.

0:48.7

I spoke to bad people and good people

0:51.1

on the front lines of the battle for America.

0:55.4

Levin's book is called Culture Warlords.

0:57.7

My journey into the dark web of white supremacy,

1:00.9

and the whole thing chronicles Levin's journey

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