All right, you guys, welcome back to another episode of pseudo intellectual live.

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very special guest he's always exciting never a dull moment with him the one and only mr. Gavin

mr. Gavin mr. Gavin mr. Gavin mr.

gavin a long time since we've spoken we were just kind of going over that

before the show started but it's been a hot minute well when I met you you were sort of like just coming on the scene so most of the stuff we talked

about was like strategizing business.

So when I see you I think of like I don't know a business project like a new shoe store or something well I do I do remember I think we were we were in DC for

CR TV tonight I was wearing a burka.

And I think at one point you told me like, you know, you get a lot more clicks if you showed

more like leg or something like that and I remember thinking, you're not wrong.

I don't know if that's the way I'm going to go, but you're not wrong. I don't know if that's the way I'm going to go but you're not wrong.

Well my other advice to you back then was just say yes to everything.

Yeah. Like keep contracts short, say yes to everything. If you're good, then the demand increases and other people start

sort of vying for you and then you just don't renew your your contract but I find young people

I'm not accusing you this they're all like, well what if this one character I come up with

takes off and becomes the new Batman and I gotta write that in and then the employer is just like,

this person's a pain in the ass ass let's just drop the whole deal.

Yeah, well I feel like I've been pretty lucky with contract negotiations. I mean we

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