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To explore more about IConnections, its events, and gain access to the members-only platform, visit iConnections.io. Welcome to the Risk Reversal podcast. I am Dan Nathan. That is Liz Thomas. We are bringing Liz in because we needed some heavy hitting sort of stuff. Camio. Guy Dami's not here. He says. Reinforcement. Reenforcement. I did not know what she's walking into. She did not. All right, that voice right there is a friend. And he's probably all over your TV, all over your internet, all over your social. It is O's Perlman. He is the author of Read Your Mind, Proven Habits for Success from the World's Greatestist. Oh, is welcome to the podcast.

Thank you very much. RRP. You're doing it here. I really appreciate you doing it. You are on a

whirlwind media tour. The book just came out. I want to say a few weeks ago. I was at your

book party. It was amazing. It was a who's who. I'm not going to dox anybody here.

But I appreciate, I appreciate you being here. Just really quickly. I mean, in the last month, you were on with CNBC Scott Wapner. You might have gotten bumped that day, Liz. Maybe I did. MS now with the Morning Joe. I'm looking through this, AC Cooper on CNN. Can we give quick notes on those two?

Morning Joe, I had a nine minutes slot.

They said hard out by 10 minutes.

They could. I'm looking through this, A.C. Cooper on CNN. Can we give quick notes on those two? Morning Joe, I had a nine minutes slot. They said hard out by 10 minutes. They kept me on set for 28 minutes. The producer goes, I don't think I've ever seen a segment run this long, ever, ever, ever. I was like, thank you, you know? As a matter of fact. 28 minutes. We kept going on live TV. It was awesome. Most hits, Liz, if you're a guest, are like four and a half, five minutes.

If you're lucky. If you're lucky, if they don't like you, you're out. So they actually must love you. I don't think they loved me. They were scared of me. They didn't know what I would do with their brains. Anderson Cooper dropped an F-bomb on live national TV, claimed to fame, so that was awesome.

Yes.

So also The View, 60 Minutes, Howard Stern. Cooper dropped an F-bomb on live national TV, claim to fame. So that was awesome.

Yes. So also The View, 60 Minutes, Howard Stern. Now, this one in the book was really

interesting, and this takes perseverance. Yes. Joe Rogan. Yes. And that was one that you

had long wanted to be on. So I had somebody who DM'd me six years ago and said, and it's, this was such a like

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