Hey, thanks for joining us today. I'm John Fuller, along with Aaron and Greg Smalley.

And Aaron, there are couples who hit a crisis or a tough season and it either pushes them

together or it tears them apart. How often do you see that there is an increased unity

out of difficulty?

I would say there's always potential for a crisis to dry a couple together. But I think

it's key, you know, where are their hearts and missed it? Are they aware of how this thing

is impacting them individually? Because sometimes, you know, hearts close and we be lying

out of there, we disconnect. But it's also looking at what type of crisis are we talking

about? There's two that are identified, you know, in a cute crisis where something suddenly

happens and it's like a bomb went off, you know, an addiction is revealed. There's a death

in the family. There's health issues, something overwhelming happens and maybe one or both

spouse are emotionally overwhelmed or there can be chronic crisis, which is this is a long

standing marriage issue that has gone on for a long time. Maybe it's an unaddressed conflict

or the marriage has been sexless or there's been in-law issues and they just haven't talked

about it and they've buried it. And I would say both have potential to bring that couple closer

and, you know, based on how they handle it. And so often with a crisis comes a lot of emotion

and grief and again it impacts the heart. Are we being intentional about crossing over and

connecting through our grief and grieving together or maybe going in and seeing a licensed Christian

counselor? I think of one couple I worked with years ago that they came in and they had been 18

years and they hadn't talked through what one spouse was really feeling. The wife actually felt

like she could not bring things up to her husband and he had no idea. He thought she was telling him

everything but she was holding back because it didn't feel safe. And so after 18 years they came

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