What does it mean to have a healthy calling?

What do we mean by the notion of calling, and how do you discern that?

What is the difference between a calling and a career in today's work environment?

We'll talk about these questions and more with our guest, Ariana Malloy, our colleague at

Biola University here in Department of Communications,

her new book, Healthy Calling, From Toxic Burnout to Sustainable Work.

I'm your host, Scott Ray.

And I'm your co-host, Sean McDowell.

This is Think Biblically from Tabith School of Theology at Biola University.

Ariana's so glad to have you with us.

Loved your book, great stuff, lots of insight. And lots of stuff that you've

been through personally with this, too. This is not something that has been this abstract

academic thing, but it's been part of what you've had to live through in pursuing your calling

as an academic as a professor. So first of all, maybe what was the one thing

that sort of put you, put you over the edge that made you decide, I have got to write on this

subject. Wow. That's a really good question. Well, first of all, it's such a delight to be here.

Thank you so much for having me. The one thing.

So, okay, COVID, teaching in my home with a two-year-old at the time, with a makeshift backdrop in our bedroom with my sort of my dresser pretending to be a bookshelf behind me while I was teaching my students.

And I heard this crash in the other room and my husband was watching our kid

and feeding him something like spaghetti, so stainworthy food and a cry. And all I could think of

is I got to make sure my child's okay. So I scoop up my son. I put him on my lap as I'm

teaching my class. And I'm noticing that their nonverbals look kind of like they're about to laugh.

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