I was watching from the ceiling of the room in the hospital as they were trying to resuscitate my body.

They were able to resuscitate her body. Her spirit returned to her body.

And she said, by the way, see the ceiling fan? There's a sticker, a red sticker on the top of one of the blades.

Sure enough, on the top of the blade, here's a sticker just as she described it.

What do you do with that? That tells me that when the Bible talks about the fact that when we die, our spirit separates

from our body, at least for some period of time when a person is clinically dead, they're still

conscious. When you have these, not just near-death experiences, but even just broader,

numinous experience, you think you encounter an angel.

What's it mean?

Michael, there is a certain percentage of people who go through a near-death experience who have a hellish experience.

What have you heard?

What happens when we die?

We have revelation.

We have speculative philosophy.

We have all sorts of accounts of it.

We also have the accounts of people who've died.

And they can tell journalists and thinkers exactly what happens to them.

And then it's up for us to see if we buy it. I am joined by a man who needs no introduction.

That would be Lee Strobel, best known for the Case for Christ, and of the new book,

Seeing the Supernatural. And speaking of Case for Christ, that's

actually a book that I first encountered when I was an atheist at Yale, as you were once

an atheist at Yale. And an evangelist guy in the commons passed me mere Christianity and Case

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