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From Pushkin Industries, this is Deep Background, the show where we explore the stories behind the

stories in the news. Today, we're going to talk about how to prevent the coronavirus.

Specifically, we're going to talk about vaccines and other approaches that might enable your body to fight off coronavirus before you get sick with it.

In order to understand this complex set of issues, we're joined by Dr. Akiko Iwasaki.

She is a professor of immunobiology at the Yale University School of Medicine.

She and her lab are hard at work trying to understand COVID-19. And she's also been an extremely effective public explainer of the

science behind vaccines in this current moment. Akiko, thank you so much for joining me. I want to

start deep in the weeds of vaccines.

This is your field.

You've been crucial in explaining it also to the general public.

What are the approaches that are being tried right now of the many approaches?

So currently, for COVID-19, there are over 90 different vaccines that are in testing.

It's unfortunately very difficult to predict what type of vaccines are going to work for particular disease.

And so at this point, we just need to try everything we can.

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